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Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Fire away. This is really the first time I've been at a computer today.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:01 PM
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Do you think we will have any big surprise commitments tomorrow? If so, how many?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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I don't think there are any "surprises." The people we have known about will commit
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:01 PM
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Any idea where Clemson stands with Houston?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:03 PM
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All of my intel points to Alabama. I know Clemson coaches are working it, and things can change, but right now I think he's a Crimson Tide
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:01 PM
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Any truth behind Terry Kinards post? Thoughts?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Ah yes, the Terry Kinard post. I have spoken with three different people who have been at practice the last few days, including two who are there with the scout team, and all three said the same thing - I have no idea what you're talking about. It appears the kid is a great kid, well-liked, and has never been an issue.
Like I've told people today, there are two sides to every story and then there's the truth. Right now we know one side.
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Im thinking that text is a fake. Not Dabos style at all.
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:10 PM
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Maybe you could reach out to Kinard to confirm if real?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Regardless of the truth, it is blowing up all over Facebook. That can’t help recruiting. Terry Konrad is in the ring of honor and just disowned Clemson for the world to see. People need to see proof that it’s not true.
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Facebook. LOL oh the horror.
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Dec 19, 2023, 8:24 PM
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Why would Terry Konrad do such a thing? 🤣
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Re: Facebook. LOL oh the horror.
Dec 21, 2023, 6:00 PM
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Why would he throw away his entire Clemson history over something that he even probably don't know the full story. If he will do that, that is a childish act, and just many son is like father, and is a spoiled brat that thinks it OK to talk to all adults the way most kids today talk back to their parents. It's a 100% the parent's fault when a kid talks back to their parent without consequences!!!
I ask my living daughter all the time, do you think that you and your sister would've gotten away with talking to me and your mom the way your kids talk to you and Marty, her was H E L L NO, and that even goes for today with me being a grown women, and she was absolutely correct, not in my lifetime!!!
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:02 PM
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Is Houston Clemson bound?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:12 PM
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I don't think so
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Dec 19, 2023, 7:02 PM
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Missing on portal guys a lack of NIL money or Dabo not wanting to get into bidding war?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Well, there have been three OL misses, and I don't think any of those have had anything to do with NIL. And Dabo isn't going to play the game of guys slipping a piece of paper over the desk and saying, "Fill in the amount." It just isn't going to happen.
With the OL guys, I don't think it's NIL. I think they look at what I look at - there are seven guys returning who have started games or played significant snaps, and the Tigers return 7500 career snaps at those spots. There isn't a "sure thing" there like a lot of guys want.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Why is our portal success rate 0%
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Here is something I wrote for someone about Clemson and the portal and my thoughts....
Clemson and the transfer portal. I don't even know where to start. Let's start here...I've gotten maybe 15-20 texts, twice as many emails as that, and several FB messages that all kind of say the same thing (some of them are just angrier than others). Is Dabo serious about the portal or is he just saying stuff to placate the fans? Is he willing to write the big checks?
Let's start with is he actively in the portal..yes, he is. The Tigers have offered three OL and checked in on other guys, but like he's said, there has to be mutual interest. At a place like Clemson, where there are highly-recruited guys across the board still here, it makes it harder. Let's take a look at the two OL that have said no. Both want to play, and they want to play now. But Clemson returns guys have started a ton of games and accrued over 7500 snaps in Leigh, Sadler, Tate, Linthicum, Parks, Sewell and Miller. And they have guys like Flapjack Owens who will play. These guys want a sure thing, and that is far from a sure thing.
The coaches feel good about other spots, but we could see some movement before Jan. 2 when the portal closes. And don't forget, the portal opens back up in the spring when guys will have gotten to participate in spring practice. I don't think there's a huge rush to just go get guys. This staff feels like they have a legitimate shot at some 4-star and 5-star recruits right now, and they want to see what happens.
But you read about all of the nonsense going on.....Juice Wells wanted a cool million after not playing last season and quitting on his teammates. Carson Beck wants millions? Running backs wanting a guaranteed $75K per month? Clemson is not going to play that game. I talked to a HS coach Thursday who said he was told by a college coach they want to look in the portal first and build from there and great recruits are being left behind. Now these HS coaches want to see what schools are willing to be loyal and develop guys. And college coaches - at least the smart ones - are seeing that the portal is a money pit right now. Programs need to be built for sustained success, and in this day and time, yes it means using the portal, but it also means recruiting and developing your own players.
A coach like Dabo is playing the long game on this one - he has to look into the future and be forward-thinking. That means he knows he isn't going to make every fan happy, especially the keyboard warriors on social media. And like he's said before, if he let the fans coach he wouldn't be successful. The good news is that Clemson isn't suffering major losses and can be picky about who they get. Other schools are out there offering everybody and throwing money around, and at the first chance they will quit on their new team, whether that is before a bowl or a playoff.
And let's take a look at the two big instate schools - all of these transfers that have to be brought in for one year or however long, do you think they understand what "Forever to Thee" means to South Carolina fans? Do these players understand what "A Clemson Man Needs No Introduction" means to the Tiger faithful? They don't. But one of those two schools HAS to use the portal like it's a flea market, and the other doesn't.
So, in short, yes Clemson is going to use the portal and will keep using it. And will be selective in who they offer while also wanting to keep the focus on HS recruiting. And no, Clemson doesn't want the guys, the mercenaries, who will slip a piece of paper across the table and tell you to fill in an amount.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Thanks for that respons, nice to read something thought out instead of emotional garbage. That’s what I figured about the portal just seemed odd with Dabo being such a good recruiter. Wish more fans understand we aren’t as bad off roster wise as many want to make it out. Have a good night Hood!!
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Thank you David for explaining that to so many who simply don't get it.
Now if they can only understand. I trust the coaches.
Go Tigers!!
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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First, what is Saban doing to get portal and juco players that do actually contribute. No way is Saban getting into a bidding war, or sign a piece of paper in your example.
The way they recruit, they have better players 2nd or 3rd team that are better than most teams. I'm not buying that he's promising transfers playing time. So I have to disagree with your oline argument as the reason transfers aren't coming here. It placates the anti transfers crowd on T-Net.
I give the transfers credit and are intelligent enough to understand that Dabo isn't making them an offer if there wasn't a real need. That seems counterintuitive. Again, couldn't that same argument apply to a Bama? So, I guess we would agree to disagree. Imo, it just feels like something different.
Now, as far as Dabo's argument, and other hs coaches argument saying tge portal hurts hs recruiting. Explain this, and I would love to ask Dabo or these coaches this scenario.
The portal actually results in MORE high school recruits getting a chance. Please correct me if I'm wrong. More portal players enter the portal each year than are picked up. Some choose to quit football if they're not picked up? Correct?
So, football scholarships are not growing. There's a finite number of scholarships. There's a finite number of eligibility. So it's impossible for the portal to eliminate recruit numbers.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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What's the story behind losing out on so many portal recruits? Team was more open about pursuit but no more successful? Did it truly boil down to NIL and playing time guarantees?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Will 7-5 8-4 or 9-3 be the norm until the transfer rule changes? Is it fair for Dabo to continue to be paid what he is if he doesn’t use the portal to improve his roster?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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You shouldn't pocket watch, it's kind of weird. His contract was based on what he has accomplished, he's not on commission.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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He accomplished it before the portal and NIL. May as well have been 100 years ago. Sorry..
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Sorry, but his contract was still active, so it's still valid.
The portal and NIL didn't cause us to go 8-4. Don't be a moron.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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I’m not arguing with idiots. There are so many on here, just another one to ignore.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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There isn't an argument, you apparently do not know how contracts work. Please, ignore away. In fact, ignore this board completely, please!
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Pony up the millions $$$$$ then hot shots. If your answer is nope then you are on the same page as Dabo. I gor one am happy that he will not buy a player for a college game!!
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No, thats incorrect.
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His contract isn’t just about being compensated for what he has accomplished. It’s also about an expectation of continued success at that level.
At some point, it becomes a question of “what have you done for me lately?” There is too much money in college football today for it to be any other way.
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Re: No, thats incorrect.
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Does this apply to basketball as well?
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Brownells compensation must be based entirely on wishful thinking.***
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Brownells on the Cicada contract. Every 13 years they come out.
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Then die and are absent for 12 more years.
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Re: No, thats incorrect.
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Based on this CBB has been overpaid for few years then. I like CBB but I hope 2yrs with PJ playing great, Tyson and a good group this year isnt short term and things have turned the corner.
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Re: No, thats incorrect.
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You have no sense of irony at all, do you?
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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DHood- can you give one take on the Clemson portal philosophy and why most players don't want to work for a position when there are already better players there?
Please be brutally honest to shut up all these dumb Portal posts! TIA
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
Dec 19, 2023, 8:15 PM
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This is exactly right, these portal players are spoiled brats. couldn’t win a starting position , and instead of fighting for it next season, jump ship and look to find an easy place to plug and play. See Rattler at South Carolina.
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Whats the story with this Terry Kinard fiasco?***
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Is it more of a case of not having the
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resources to compete for top portal prospects, or is it a matter of principal and philosophy from the staff?
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Do you have my Christmas present and when can we meet to pick it up...***
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Re: Do you have my Christmas present and when can we meet to pick it up...***
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I bought your present. And then drank it.
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King hood , any inter on the lineman from Tennessee***
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Re: King hood , any inter on the lineman from Tennessee***
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He committed to Arkansas.
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Can we do a radio show together?***
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Is my microphone even on?
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Check. Check 1-2. Check.
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Does the staff truly believe we can be elite without the portal?
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We seem to be the only ones that believe this.
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Re: Does the staff truly believe we can be elite without the portal?
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We seem to be the only ones that believe this.
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
Dec 19, 2023, 7:30 PM
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Is the Pigskin Prophet your alter ego?
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Why is water wet?***
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Any info on our attempt to flip Lagway?***
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Re: Here for a few minutes to answer any questions you have
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Sorry if already asked but any news on the WR from Tulane?
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Jeff Scott ...
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If you were a tree,
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DID YOU TAKE MACKEY PYLER'S JOB AT TIGERNET?
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Not a complaint, as you can communicate well via the written word, but just curious if you could pull back the orange curtain for a sec.
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