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Orange Blooded [4161]
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Why to 65% of voters think Trumps Economy was good? And
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May 13, 2024, 1:54 PM
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38% of voters think Biden’s economy is good?
Is it because they are all stupid mouth breathers that don’t know what’s good for them?
Or do 65% of voters know a load of crap when they hear it?
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Well, it was good during this presidency.
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May 13, 2024, 2:02 PM
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It was on a major upswing when he took over and continued on that path. COVID put the brakes on it. Trump made it worse. Biden then made it even worse.
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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I dunno how much any president has to do with the economy.
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May 13, 2024, 2:06 PM
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I'd say the fed, and their control of interest rates has more affect on most people day to day than Trump paying off a Pr0n star or Biden not knowing what room he is in.
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Yup
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May 13, 2024, 2:10 PM
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Trumpists will never admit the economy was already on an upswing when he came into office; for a while, he just didn't mess up the situation. Administrations can do that far easier than boost it.
COVID made things a mess and the Trump admin made some missteps to compound it. Then Biden admin did as well. But there were also factors they couldn't control.
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CU Guru [1459]
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Re: Yup
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May 13, 2024, 2:48 PM
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I will definitely admit the economy was on an upswing that continued until Covid. If states would’ve never shutdown their businesses/lives I fully believe the economy would’ve taken a much lighter hit. The rest of the world shutdown too.
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Re: Yup
May 17, 2024, 8:59 PM
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This is maybe the biggest crock you've ever posted and is one of the bigfest msm lies ever told.
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CU Guru [1459]
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Re: Yup
May 18, 2024, 9:24 AM
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What? Where did I post a lie?
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He's talking to me
May 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
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He's also one of this site's dumbest posters.
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Want me to prove it?
May 18, 2024, 11:57 AM
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Or are you just gonna run away like a little ##### like you usually do and just TD posts in a corner like a little baby?
Want to put some real money on that?
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Orange Blooded [4161]
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I would argue that Trumps relatively loose Covid restrictions on business
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May 13, 2024, 2:49 PM
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Had a tremendous impact on the economy
The data shows that our recession was shallower and our recovery was much quicker than any other developed economy.
I think 65% of the public has rightly determined that Joe Biden doesn’t deserve credit for the Covid recovery.
I think they also blame democrats and the corporate wing of the Republican Party for the lack of spending discipline that is the driving inflation. Trump’s move to cut spending (despite failing) seems to have remained fresh on the memory of swing voters.
I still fault him for partially caving into the left’s demands to shut everything down without demanding they produce real data on masks, social distancing and all the other stupid crap we did that we will all laugh about in 25 years.
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Re: I would argue that Trumps relatively loose Covid restrictions on business
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May 17, 2024, 6:00 PM
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Trump deserves some blame for, in 2020, acquiescing to the national panic and to the left’s ‘remedy’ that draconian measures to limit the spread of COVID. I give him a pass because the COVID crisis was so intensely propagandized and superficially ‘smart’ therapies (such as mass intubation / excessive use of ventilators … in large part because hospitals had been convinced to purchase huge numbers of ventilators starting late Q1 and early Q2 of 2020 … so that hospitals could get full reimbursement for billings of ventilator use on COVID patients) did not help to ###### the rapidly increasing rate of COVID related deaths. In other words, opportunistically compromised ‘health expert’ agencies / organizations such as the FDA, CDC, NAIAD, and WHO provided semi-specious advice to Trump. What was he supposed to so in light of such unified recommendations by the health agencies / organizations? In 2020, there was not any meaningful data from which to judge the positive vs negative aspects of that advice from the health ‘experts.’
By mid-year 2021, meaningful data about how to weigh the positive vs negative aspects of the COVID ‘management’ policies was becoming available. Yet, Biden’s handlers did not make public health policy adjustments that reflected the wisdom of cutting back in the authoritarian extremes of the original COVID management protocols. Worse still, as of Q3-2021, the coercive measures to adhere to the then-already-obsolete ‘original COVID management’ protocols intensified.
To use the phrase popularized by former Clinton admin staffer and former Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel, ‘never let a crisis go to waste,’ Biden’s handlers used the COVID crisis of 2020 to waste ‘COVID relief’ funds for any- and every- thing that benefitted Uniparty special interests.
So … here we are.
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Nice synopsis. Trying to equate T-Rump vs. Biden decisions is specious at best.***
May 18, 2024, 12:09 PM
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Oculus Spirit [98212]
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Way i see it, if people think the President owns, runs, and manages the economy
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May 13, 2024, 4:16 PM
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We might as well elect a dictator and make that true.
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Is that a straw man
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May 17, 2024, 10:36 AM
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Or just hyperbole.?
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Re: Why to 65% of voters think Trumps Economy was good? And
May 13, 2024, 4:38 PM
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Because morons don't realize that the he doesn't make the economy.
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110%er [9711]
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Did Trump raising the standard deduction from whatever-it-was to whatever-it
May 13, 2024, 5:41 PM
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is-now affect the economy? It seems like that would have put mo' money in mo' peoples pockets - which would affect the economy.
This post is neither pro nor anti Trump. Just an example that (I think) shows that a President can influence the economy.
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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I know it effed up my taxes
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May 15, 2024, 1:19 PM
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I never had to pay the amounts I have to now at year end like I did after whatever he did was changed.
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110%er [9711]
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The tax rates went down, so did the amount taken out of your paycheck change
May 16, 2024, 1:52 PM
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as a result of whatever-the-legislation-was?
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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I don't recall ever paying less per week.
May 16, 2024, 4:08 PM
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if I did..it wasn't sizable enough to offset the end of year 5 figure payments.
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CU Guru [1459]
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Re: I don't recall ever paying less per week.
May 18, 2024, 11:36 AM
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You’re making bank if you owe 10 grand plus at the end of the year. Or you need a new accountant.
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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$11,700 last year.
May 18, 2024, 11:50 AM
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And what's to account? 2 W2's and a standard deduction. I could do my taxes on my iphone.
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110%er [9711]
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yeah - that hair needs to be split around here. Technically, the prez can't
May 16, 2024, 3:26 PM
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do it - but he can certainly ask his Congressional leaders to get it done. Because they had to use reconciliation, it all expires soon...
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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Will the standard deduction go back to what it was, and I'll get my home office
May 16, 2024, 4:09 PM
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and charity deductions back?
If so...I'm in favor of it expiring.
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110%er [9711]
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If your itemized deductions are now less than the standard deduction, then
May 17, 2024, 10:07 AM
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the standard deduction should be helping you.
But - yes - I think the Trump Tax stuff all expires next year.
Edit: I should mention that if you have a home office that you can deduct, then you've probably got some tax implications that I wouldn't be familiar with...I work for THE MAN, I'm afraid.
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Oculus Spirit [81732]
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The deductions I listed were always off the bottom line.
May 18, 2024, 11:29 AM
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It wasn't a one for one drop in the end of year amount I owed, but they certainly helped more than my now one deduction (the standard one). They were in addition to the standard deduction.
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Trumps economy was markedly better. Bidens economy is fake and people
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May 16, 2024, 2:32 PM
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Know it.
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Why do nearly 100% of dimlibs think that anyone that supports Trump are
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May 16, 2024, 3:39 PM
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"stupid mouth breathers"?
Many folks just don't want a POTUS with dementia.
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LOL. Two Points....
May 16, 2024, 3:44 PM
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1) Most Red Hats hate the economy only because Joe Biden is president. If we had this exact same economy but with Trump as President, they would love it and be talking about how great it is. It's well-known that in economic polling, Republican views are more associated with who is in the White House instead of actual conditions.
2) When consumers are asked about THEIR OWN finances, about 65% say they're doing fine. So, most people acknowledge their own situation is good, but say something awful is happening "out there"....wherever that is (probably in NYC or SF, which is the Great Satan to the Red Hats)...
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Orange Blooded [4161]
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Where is this poll?
May 16, 2024, 4:02 PM
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Where 65% of people say they are doing fine
Happy to believe it, just want to see the data
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Orange Blooded [4161]
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Re: He was wrong, its not 65%, its 63% or 61%.
May 17, 2024, 10:26 AM
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I’ll take your word for it.
The axios link doesn’t show the poll and I can’t find it on Harris either
And I don’t subscribe to the NYT anymore
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Orange Blooded [2187]
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The Axios link summarized the results....
May 17, 2024, 6:22 PM
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That link was 63%, and the link I gave you was 65%.
The fact is, a strong majority of Americans, almost 2/3rd, think they are financially good or better.
And by almost all measures, the economy is strong.
So, why do Red Hats hate the economy? It's simply because Biden is President. No other reason.
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Orange Blooded [2187]
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Link attached...
May 16, 2024, 9:05 PM
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https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3897
These were voters in Wisconsin:
Sixty-five percent of voters describe their financial situation these days as either excellent (11 percent) or good (54 percent), while 34 percent describe it as either not so good (23 percent) or poor (11 percent).
Other surveys show numbers that are very similar in other parts of the country.
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